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Rolex in the movies - 3 days to Kill - Explorer 1655

Just say the movie - 3 days to kill - with kevin costner - after a link on vintagerolexforum
His watch makes a big role in the movie - and what a watch. A rolex Explorer 1655, straight second hand and MkI bezel.

For a WIS this is a must see movie - watch is seen in start of movie, when he gets it back, and when he gives it away.

Movie still are difficult to get, but I have the following from vintagerolexforum and from imdb.com.



IMDB.com link

Nice to see this kind of watch in a movie - that is not product placement. Only way to get this kind of watch is very limited.



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Vintage is full up for me - for now.

With the latest Explorer 1655, my vintage quest is put on hold.

I know that I might change my meaning again, but for now I will not look at another vintage watch.

There is something special about vintage watches - that is for sure, but I feel that I have the right amount now, and don't feel like adding another vintage watch any time in the near future.

My vintage consist of the following Rollies.

  • Rolex 1675 - pointed guards - nice dial and all in all a nice version of the original GMT
  • Rolex 5513 - a classic Rolex sub.
  • Rolex 1665 - the beast of a watch - the first real dweller - the great white
  • Rolex 1680 - First sub with date - Top hat
  • Rolex 1655 - First Explorer II - with straight second hand




And now my non-vintage Rollies.


  • Rolex 16550 - black dial - my first Rolex and last to go.
  • Rolex 16610LV - The 50 years Sub. Maxi dial and everything
  • Rolex 18038 - My Day Date and ONLY gold watch
  • Rolex 16600 - My second Rolex - The modern dweller.
  • Rolex 16520 - My only chronograph - a true Rolex classic.







My Rolex 1655 - straight hand

This watch have been on and off my "next watch list" for many years. But never really been a valid candidate as the price for a nice version was much more than I could defend.

Besides the price, I have always had a soft spot for this model. My first Rolex and the LAST to go is my Rolex explorer II - model 16550, as this was given to me on a special occasion and by a special person.

A good friend of me had a super nice example of the 1655, all original and with correct band and a dial and hands to die for. But these versions are few and far between. And if you find them the price will be high. Good quality demands high prices.

Well the story is that this 1655 is now in my family, and that I at the same time said goodbye to my 16613 (sub gold and steel) and my 1665 (with L-dail).
And now to some information about my new Vintage Rolex 1655.


  • My model is the first version of the Rolex explorer II 1655 with straight seconds hand (more about the different 1655 versions later).
  • My 1655 is from 1972 (stamped in back case).
  • My model have the correct bracelet 7836 and correct 280 endlinks, and claps stamped 4/71.
  • Dial is the version with Dial mk.I
  • Bezel is the Mk.II version.
  • Dial and hands are close to perfect
  • Case is only lightly polished.
  • Serial is 3.03 Mil.
  • Patina on Dial is super nice.


It has been on my wrist for more than 2 weeks and I must say that the explorer II rolex versions are very underrated.


Some photos of my new 1655.






Rolex Explorer II - 1655 - aka Big Red Arrow - aka Steve McQueen

People that have been following my watchblog will know that I have had my eye on the old version of the Rolex Explorer II for some time.

I could not defend for my self to use that kind of money on a watch. Right now this watch is my most valued watch in the collection.

I have been looking at many 1655 watches over the years, but all the possibly watches somehow failed. I went for a very used and "cheap" model, but never got hand of one. Then a number of other watches came (16613, 1665) into my family.
Even if my 16613 (gold and steel) was a watch I liked very much - the watch did not find any mercy from my wife. Every time I had my 16613 on - the wife looked at me and said - please put another watch on - this makes you look like a accountant (not that there is anything wrong with that).


I then also had a "extra" 1665 with a L-dial when I found a used 1665 with a nice patina dial.



Somehow me watch friend that had a super nice 1655 (I have seen it a multiple times) contacted me and asked if I would like to make a swap with my 18038 or 16613 plus cash.

I then went into a mode of yes, maybe, no,... Should I get a deep sea or should I get a 1655 ...

I tried to sell my 1665 - but there was NO one interest - I ended up selling my 1665 for 4900 euro/6500 US - not a high price - but the dial was a L-dial, and people ONLY want a T-dial.

Then I thought about my day date (18038) - should I sell it or should I keep it. Initially I was OK to use it for trade, but in the end I decided against it, as the Day Date has ALWAYS been The ROLEX watch for me. So after many thoughts - the day date mine to keep.



Many days later - weeks later - I jump in - I would like to get the 1655 out of my head, and if my 16613 could be part of the trade - so be it.
So to make a long story a little shorter - trade the 16613, sold the 1665 and plus some extra money, I got my 1655.
The price can you always talk about - but I know I have the finest version of any 1655 straight hand, more on that later.


So here it is:






Swap or Not - gold vs Steel

Well when I have a number of watches that I love, and is given a new possibility for a nice watch.
Should I then jump into the sea and get it or should I stay with my watches.

The dilemma is that I can make a trade plus cash towards a dream watch for me - the rolex explorer II (1655), if I let go of my newly day date 1803 (complete package and everything /NOS) that I love very much. The watches are two different beasts.

The swap is like day date 1803 (B&P) + 5k euro (7k us) for the 1655 (with nothing)

Lets say I'm very close - just need a little extra push.

My pro and cons.

Pro the swap:

  • The 1655 have been on my radar for many years - but the prices are just to high to justify (for me)
  • The 1655 is makrI/II straight hand
  • The 1655 is with original band
  • The 1655 is with a dial/hands that is just perfect.
  • The 1655 in this condition is for me difficult to find.
  • My 1803 don't get the wrist time it should
  • I can always find a used 1803 again - maybe not in same condition but close.
  • My 1803 is NOT a favourite by the wife
  • Money spend will be forgotten
  • If I don't do it - will I regret it
  • The 1655 will get more wrist time than day date.


Cons the swap.

  • I can maybe find nice 1655 for a little less - guess I pay 3k euro for the perfect example and straight hand
  • My 1803 is NOS - and just perfect
  • I can save the money to get a other watch ..


As you can see I have a dilemma -but can find most pro for the swap.

Now for some pictures - please note the the original 1655 band is not in the picture - and the new oyster band will not be included.

My 1803 (NOS) - with B&P



The 1655 (Very Nice) - with nothing.






My trip into Panerai - coming from Rolex

Some basic information about me and my trip in the watch world. (the very short version).

My first "real" watch was a Heuer Professional Diver - quartz, that have been through hell, but is still working and for me have some history.





But had always dreamt of a rolex - don't we all before we get our eyes open ;-)

So my next real watch was a rolex exp II (16550) brought directly from the AD in 1985, and even if I did have my look on the rolex sub, I selected the exp II - and have never regretted this. The exp II is the one watch II will keep forever.





This watch was my daily watch for almost 20 years, until I got my next rolex, and now it was time for the rolex dweller 16600, and my first used watch.





I was bitten by the watch bug, and the rest is history.


Now I got a multiple number of watches before my first Panerai.


Some of the watches on the way to the first panerai.








I had been looking into panerai, but was not that happy to pull the trigger...
But in 2007 (almost 7 years ago) I went and got a Panerai 004B.

And boy was I happy with that monster of a watch.

Just check it out - that is one nice watch ;-)








I'm sorry to say - I sold this watch - and yes you can have sellers remorse.

Then came my Panerai 25C - yes - my daily watch for many years.




Then I sold my Pam 4B (to finance yet another watch), and got my Panerai 1B






That watch also left my little family... So the only Panerai watch I have is my Pam 25C. Then came a slow Panerai period - where I went back to Rolex, and also looked at other brands (Linde Werdelin), and what I never thought was possible - my quest into the gold (semi-gold) watch world.

Some of the newer additions...






But Now I'm back and checking different Pam models.

I'm looking into

Models /000/005/243/372/64/87

I do like the "older" versions somewhat better than the newer models.


What is a fair price?

What is a fair price for a watch?
Well it depends on your way of thinking. I could ask the same in relation to cars, shooes, pocket knifes, etc.
I value of a watch should be based on their second hand value. If you can sell it again, for a price that match your initial cost. Well I guess that the watch is priced fair.



Is vintage in decline?

Looks like I'm getting my Rolex dweller 1665 back. Sometimes I feel that the number of people with a focus on vintage Watches are in a decline. The watch golden era, was just before the financial crisis, and the way back takes some more time. It looks like buying the more modern models is a safer way to go, than paying the same amount for a beautiful vintage watch.


Box and Papers (b&p) what is the deal?

When buying a new watch it is now normal that you get box and papers. But when buying a vintage watch, you have to be lucky if you also get the original box and papers. In the old days, long before the internet and the many different watchforums, people bought a watch to use, and not as a part of any collection.
So would you pay extra for a vintage watch with b&p?
Yes I would,


My quest for the next watch - part 1 - Rolex

As always, I'm on my quest for the next watch. And because I don't have the contacts to get watches at a discount, or watches almost free, I. most always select my next watch based on many factors.
I will not buy a watch that cost $$$$ whiteout the possibility to sell again with a minimal loss. I will only buy a watch I will wear, eg. no safequeens for me, and last the watch will also probably be a watch I have wanted for some time.
Right now I have 4 brands (5 if you push it) that could be a candidate for the next one in the family.
They are:
  • Rolex
  • Linde Werdelin
  • Panerai
  • Audemars P. ROO
  • Patek

Let me describe my thoughts about each brand - first one up is Rolex.

Rolex:
Rolex is my first real watch after my Heuer. And probably the brand that many people think as a brand to explore on many levels.
The Rolex is also a brand that have their own way of working. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
This has been the status for the last many years, but lately they have begun to follow some of the watch trends that have been underway. (vintage, history, size,..). But one thing that Rolex is not know for, is their focus on vintage Rolex. And for me with 50/50 between old and new Rolex, their service prices are not good for my pocket. So for me getting a new /old Rolex will be a secure investment, a brand I will forever be involved in, but also a little dull, when a new Rolex just will be number x in my little collection.

My Rolex candidates are:
Rolex deep sea.
A real toolwatch , nothing special
Rolex millgauss GV
Rolex explorer ll - new model.



What is the status for me in 2014

Been a little inactive the past months. This is mainly due to other priorities and a little more focus on my work. But I plan to be more active the on my blog and on different watchforums.

Right now my watch status is "looking for a new used watch".

1. trying to sell a watch.
2. looking for many different Watches.
3. continue to look for Watches.





Link to danish webpage with Rolex sub and GMT info

When looking for Rolex information - you can start to look around the net or maybe your so lucky that the information can be found on one page. I found this page (in Danish) that have the very basic information related to rolex subs and gmt.
And the best advice Danny gives is "buy the seller"!!!!
Check out the page here SUBCENTRAL:DK

You will find info related to dials, inserts, etc..




Do you like color on your watch or not?

Most of the time I like the more simple watches, simple in look and simple in function.
But that is not the complete truth. But sometimes I find that watches with color can be just the right thing.

The first colorful watch I got was the Rolex GMT - the red/blue bezel is just right.



The next color watch I got was the Rolex 50 years sub - the 16610LV (lunete verte = green bezel) in 2003. This watch have been the talk of the twon for some years.
Was the green sub only a limited version, or was the LV model a new color. As it has turned out the green bezel submariner is now a part of the submarine models. Now in a more beefed up model with ceramic bezel.

I like the "original" green sub - the first modern rolex with maxidial - and you still have the possibility to change the green bezel with a black.

Then came my latest color watch - my Rolex sub 16613 - gold and steel with blue bezel and blue dial.
It have a little more punch in the colors than the other watches with black dial (GMT and LV), and the gold adds some more bling bling to the watch.






But in the end I find that I always return to the simple look again and again.



Do I need a Patek watch ?

The more and more I think about my way in the watch collecting / using time. The more I'm looking into the more expensive watch brands.
Is the end of the road for me a Patek Phillipe watch??
I really think that a Nautilus could be my final watch, maybe one together with my rolex'es. And also a Audemars ROO could find the way to my home in time.
When I have my Patek Nauilus and my Audemars ROO I will rest my case ;-)
Maybe only some more exotic watches that can tickle my brain



Again a fantastic story on a watch

I love to read these watch stories where you get a complete watch story from the original owner and the life the watch have lived.

Again it is on vintagerolexforum where a watch dealer have found and all original Omega Speedmaster and a Rolex sub from 1958 - in all original shape.
Just take a look at the super nice Rolex after it have been through a minor service - it just looks so nice and perfect.





And after the service - just take a look at the rolex




I suggest you head over to the foum and enjoy the many nice photos.


My quest into Linde Werdelin watches ...

Will it continue - maybe - The Linde Werdelin watches is for me what I would call my sleeper watch.

I like the design - it is special, the idea of a real tool-watch (even if the sale of the rock and the reef is low).

The present watches "only" includes the spido (but in many different looks) and the Octopus (again in many looks).
I miss some of their old models - my own Elemental is very nice - understated compared to the newer models.

It has some time since I last looked into the Linde Werdelin watches and the LW people have moved away from my last (and first) visit at their R&D in Denmark.
Check out my little Linde Werdelin story here , and I really need to update my Linde Werdelin INFO page - last update about a year ago.

Maybe it is time to a new visit to Linde Werdelin and see what have changed - what are under the radar - what is the next move.

I have some idea for LW.

  • Entry watch - have people move into the LW world with a "simple" watch - ala sub non date
  • Personalize watch - why not let people personalize a watch - one of a kind watches LW have done it before.


I can only suggest that you check out their site - and look at my old factory / R&D tour on these pages.

Some of my photos from the R&D tour.



And some photos of my Linde Werdelin watch - The first Elemental





Watch Military Codes - information

I don't have any Rolex milsub aka 5513/5517 - even if this is a dream watch for me - but I do have some other military watches that are avaliable for all people out there.

Again the vintagerolexforum is THE place to check for any vintage/special rolex watches. The amount of knowledge that exist in this forum is second to none.

Just check out this detailed desciption of UK military watch codes on this LINK.

Just some minor extract from this thread...

Nato Stock Number
NSN arrives around the middle of the 60s : it was studied to make a perfect identification within NATO of every kind of supplies ( from bullets to spare parts for laundry machines) , in order to have an easy classification and supply of all items already in use or expected to be used in the military environment.

It consists of 13 digits so defined :

A) the first 4 digits define the SPECIES (=sort ) code ; in other words they define " the family " to which belongs the item , so for ex. 5305= screws , 6645= wrist watches ;

B) digits 5 and 6 are the code of the country who has given this NSN , that can be different from the country who has made the item ; so for ex. a watch produced in France can have the country code of another nation , such as Germany or USA .

Some country codes are :

-- from 00 to 09 : United States

-- 99 : UK

-- 12 : Germany

-- 14 : France

-- 15 : Italy

C) the last 7 digits are the own item code : so all 7 digits codes describe an item ( or a group of items with extremely close features ) within the nation that has requested this particular NSN.

This means :

1) the 7 digits code is defined as " with no inherent significance " , so it doesn't give any evident information about the item ( in other words it's completely at random ) ;

2) it's progressive and depends on the time in which the codification has been requested ; for ex. " 545.7078 " can be a lamp and the following number ( " 545-7079 " ) a ground-air missile.

3) some 7 digits codes have been used by more than a country ( as for watches ) some only by the country who has created that code.



Some UK examples :

*) a British Army Smith watch delivered in 1970 had this NSN : 6645-99-961-4045 and the complete delivery code would be :

W10-6645-99-961-4045

1579/70.



I have the following Mil. watch that are easy avaliable for ALL.




STOC - State of the collection 2013.

As the year ends and a new year starts - what have left your collection and what have entered your collection. From my point of view - 2013 was a very quiet year - nothing much happened on the watch front. But let me summarize.
Last year 2012-2013 I sold my Panerai 1B, and got number two of the classic Rolex 1665 and my first real gold watch - my Rolex day-date 18038.
What did 2013 bring then ?

Also a first - my first gold/steel watch - the Rolex 16613 - with blue dial.
This watch has some history on my part. When I was traveling in Africa back in 1980-1990, with my Rolex Exp II (16550), I first saw this watch in real life on a man that "really" live the life. So from that day on - that special Rolex (submariner with blue dial and gold and steel), have had a place in my mind.

And in has been on my wrist for the time I got it until now - only replaced with my 1665 - the watch I see as most classic - in the same league as the 5513 (just a little more beefy)


So for 2013 it was:


  • Goodbye to ---- Nothing - I do have my other 1665 on sale - but still in my collection
  • Welcome to ---- Rolex submariner 16613 - first gold/steel watch






My quest for a Rolex Exporer II 1655 - ongoing

My quest for the simple Rolex Explorer II (1655) is under way.
But as things goes - the "time" to get this watch is a little uphill compared to the more "normal" price watches out there. I'm in the process of talking my self into the idea that a Rolex Explorer II (1655) is a must. But somehow it can be a difficult task, when you compare the price with that of a new small car!
I think many WIS people have this dilemma, how can a watch be of that value, after all it is just some steel and some "paint".



2013 is NOW in Archive - Please check them out

Remember to check out the archives - There might be some funny info for you in the many archive pages.;-)






Welcome 2014 - and good bye 2013.

Now we have entered into 2014 and as always can look back on a year gone bye. What have we done with our life, have we enjoyed life enough, do we want to change something, was was good and what was bad. Well from my point of view 2013 was one busy year with my normal work, why my wathcblog.dk and quest for new watches was on a low.

The year have been so busy - no real summer vacation, many extra hours on the job, and changes in the organization. I start the new year with a "company takeover" - as my old company is now become a part of a bigger organization. I see this as very positive and hope that the next two years will bring many changes and more responsibility to me. We must wait and see, but I think that it is time to speed up my work profile.
On the watch front, I hope 2014 will bring me back in "contact" with the watchworld and give me some more time to update my blog and the other forums I'm on. So again I say to all - welcome 2014 and let it be a good year to come.


My daily watch for is for now the Rolex sub 16613

Since I got my Rolex sub gold and steel (model 16613), it has been my daily watch. The wife still thinks it is to "nice" - the gold makes it look like a "not a mans watch" in her mind.

But I like it ;-)




I'm starting to grow warm on Panerai again.

After a periode where Panerai have been in the dark from my point of view. I'm starting to enjoy the old look and size of the Panerai watches, and will focus on the early models. Somehow the newer models are to high priced for my "time".

Maybe a Panerai Logo, just to get a basic model back into the family.